Here’s an interview that Melissa McBride (Carol) did with The Hollywood Reporter. Credit goes to them for this post.
Warning: Spoilers from season.
Rick has kicked Carol out of the prison! What was your first response when you read the script?
I didn’t see that coming! I was pretty floored and I love it. I liked where it went. I looked at it from the story and thought, “God, how ironic.” This choice that Rick has made, there’s so much going on and so many parallels. There are so many ways to turn what’s going on here to find these parallels between Rick and Carol, between what she’s done and what everyone has done in some way. I can’t help but really like the way that this went down.
Were you worried that you were being written out of the show? Will Carol be back?
No, I wasn’t worried. We don’t know if she’ll be back! (Laughs.) I can’t say! I can’t wait until everyone sees how this season plays out. It’s going in so many directions.
If this was it for Carol, would you be satisfied?
That’s a tough question because I like not knowing. I can only imagine what the hell she’s up to out there and what she’s going to do. I like that aspect, but then it’s so abrupt and weird. It’s so hard to understand and to completely banish her, it’s flooring.
Do you think Carol deserved to be banished from the group?
No. It’s interesting Rick wants to go on this run and bring her along for it. They’re testing one another it seems. She knows what happened to Shane (Jon Bernthal) and questions what’s going on there. Rick is feeling the same way and wondering what’s going on with her. Obviously when she took the risk, Carol knew there would be consequences if she had to confess or if anyone found out. She was prepared to tell Rick, that he would find out. She even suggested in the council meeting that Rick do a timeline to see who was where and when as the slayings happened. That’s very interesting to note. Did she want to get caught? When she says to Rick that she did it, she stands there for a second and waits and he doesn’t say anything, so she presses on with her task.
It’s interesting that you mention the timeline. There’s a theory that Carol is covering for Lizzie, who in this episode reveals that she’s not afraid to kill people.
I’m sure Carol did it. But did she want Rick to find out? Hence the episode title, “Indifference.” That’s an interesting title for this and that attitude toward some of the things that Carol felt had to be done, because there was a more pressing matter that all goes back to the things we have to do in this world to survive and can we come back from them. There’s a bit of that at play: Rick pulling Carl (Chandler Riggs) in and taking his gun away after he shot and killed the boy. There’s also a part of Rick that obviously doesn’t trust Carol because he sees what she’s capable of now — he’s seen a lot of what she’s capable of in this episode. I don’t know what else she’s capable of, had it been someone else besides Karen. What if it had been one of our original Atlanta people? What would she have done then? She’s going about this with a very single mind and not talking to other council people, and that’s frightening. That threatens his position of leadership, even though he had taken a backseat to it and didn’t come to the council meetings — which she and the group really wanted him to attend since his voice is important. She’s wanting to be caught and wanting Rick to do something.
Carol doesn’t want Lizzie to call her “Mom” but later tells the two strangers that she has two kids. Why would she deny her that?
You have to depend on yourself, so there’s a bit of that going on. As well, she doesn’t want her to get used to the fact that whatever your idea of “mother” is, you have to be there for yourself, too. She needs to be prepared to act alone. Carol also has that “I can’t go there again; I can’t take you into my heart.” It’s too painful after Sophia, and she can’t go through that again. She knows she’s the mother figure, but to call her mom is too much. Then when she and Rick get to the house, she says she has two daughters. That was really for Rick to understand that there are two little girls that Carol is protecting as her own, and they have to get back. Her objective is to get the stuff and get back and to reiterate why she did what she did in the first place: to protect the children and the group.
Could Carol attempt to return to the prison for Lizzie and Mika?
I certainly hope so. She knows someone has to take care of them because that was Ryan’s dying request. Her heart is broken, and I would hope she finds a way back, but I don’t know. Plus she’s got the crappy car! Rick took the good one!